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Origin Adapted in the 7th century BCE from a west Greek alphabet
Y is the twenty-fifth letter of the Roman alphabet, sounding as a vowel the i or u sound, originally the rounded front vowel of Greek Upsilon, and as a consonant the y glide, as in yes. It was borrowed directly from Greek Upsilon late in the Republic and added near the end of the Latin alphabet specifically to spell Greek loanwords accurately; the Romans even called it the Greek i. It shares its ultimate source, the Phoenician waw, with F, U, V, and W. Y is not a Roman numeral. In mathematics y is the second unknown and the vertical axis, and the Y shape symbolizes a fork or branching, as in the Pythagorean Y, the parting of the ways.
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Origins
Origin PeriodAdapted in the 7th century BCE from a west Greek alphabet 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin PeriodReached Latium through Etruscan intermediaries 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin PeriodYoungest of the three historical alphabets; never used as numerals 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Place of OriginEtruscans took it from Greek colonists in the bay of Naples 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Place of OriginLatium and central Italy, by way of the Etruscans 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin of the NameLatin calls its letters by their sounds, dropping the old names 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin of the NameLatin letters have no names of their own, unlike Hebrew and Greek 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin of the NameNo alphabetic numeral system; Roman numerals are not one 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Origin of the NameThere is no ancient Latin gematria 1Tradition: The Latin alphabet and its Greek and Etruscan antecedents Sense of the Name Attributions
Associated SoundAs a vowel, the i or u sound, originally the rounded front vowel of Greek Upsilon; as a consonant, the y glide, as in yes 1 Disputed
Chaldean Letter Value1 3Tradition: Modern planetary numerology, the scheme called Chaldean Sourced to the subject's own accountThe values recorded here follow Cheiro's Book of Numbers (Cheiro, the pen name of William John Warner, published by Herbert Jenkins, London, 1926), the most widely reproduced version of the so-called Chaldean numerology table. Cheiro's own text names no ancient Chaldean source for the letter values it assigns, and comparing it against other published numerology tables from the same and later periods finds no agreement between them on several letters; no Mesopotamian or Chaldean text has ever been produced that contains a comparable letter-number correspondence. That comparison is why historians of the modern occult treat "Chaldean" as a nineteenth and twentieth century marketing label rather than a checkable lineage claim. The value recorded here is Cheiro's published reading, not a settled fact. Identity
Script TypeAn alphabet: one letter to a sound, consonant or vowel, descended by way of the Old Italic and Etruscan scripts from the Greek alphabet, itself adapted from Phoenician. 1 PositionTwenty-fifth of twenty-six in the Roman alphabet 1 Rival Systems
A Rival System's AttributionFrom a 20th-century 1-9 repeating chart marketed as Pythagorean 2Tradition: Modern name numerology (Mrs. L. Dow Balliett and her successors) A Rival System's AttributionNot Pythagoras's; rival Chaldean scheme assigns different values 2Tradition: Modern name numerology (Mrs. L. Dow Balliett and her successors) A Rival System's AttributionY = 7 in modern name numerology 2Tradition: Modern name numerology (Mrs. L. Dow Balliett and her successors) Modern Numerology
Pythagorean Letter Value7 2Tradition: Modern name numerology (Mrs. L. Dow Balliett and her successors) Learn More
Y: The Letter in the Roman Alphabet
Y is a letter of the Latin (Roman) alphabet, the script now used to write English and most languages of western Europe and, today, much of the world. It represents the vowel /y/ or /i/. Historically it is adopted directly from Greek upsilon in the first century BCE to spell Greek loanwords, and long called 'Greek i'. Unlike the Hebrew and Greek alphabets, the Latin (Roman) alphabet never developed a systematic per-letter mystical or numerological tradition: Roman numerals form a separate, non-alphabetic system, so this entry stays with the letter's linguistic and historical record. The Roman alphabet is the youngest of the three historical scripts covered in this atlas: Latium adapted it around the 7th century BCE from a west Greek alphabet, reaching it through Etruscan intermediaries who had themselves taken their letters from Greek colonists settled in the bay of Naples. Latin calls each letter simply by its sound rather than by an inherited name, unlike Hebrew and Greek, and it never built an alphabetic numeral system of its own, so there is no ancient Latin counterpart to Hebrew gematria or Greek isopsephy; Roman numerals are a separate, non-alphabetic notation.
A modern practice called name numerology, drawn from a twentieth-century repeating 1-to-9 chart and commonly marketed as Pythagorean despite no documented link to Pythagoras, assigns the letter Y the digit 7; a rival popular scheme, the so-called Chaldean system, assigns different digits to the same letters, so even the two modern schemes disagree with each other.
Y as a Graphic Form
Y entered the Latin alphabet later and by a different route than most of its neighbours. Classical Latin's native alphabet, inherited from Etruscan, had no letter shaped like the Greek vowel upsilon; when Rome began transliterating large numbers of Greek loanwords and proper names during the late Republic, its scribes borrowed upsilon directly from Greek, rather than adapting an existing Etruscan-derived letter, and placed the new letter at the very end of the alphabet alongside Z rather than inserting it into upsilon's original Greek position, roughly where U and V already sat.
Because of this late, direct borrowing, Y in classical Latin usage was largely confined to Greek words, such as the many technical and philosophical terms Latin absorbed from Greek, and Roman grammarians noted its foreign character explicitly, sometimes calling it the Greek y for the difficulty native Latin speakers had pronouncing the rounded Greek vowel it represented. Its graphic shape, a V or U form topped by a shorter stem, has changed little since that Republican-era borrowing, and Y carries no Roman numeral value, since it entered Latin too late and too narrowly to be absorbed into the numeral system built around the alphabet's older core letters.
Cross-Tradition Connections
Derived From
The Latin letter Y descends from Greek Upsilon, reaching Latin through the Etruscan adaptation of a Western Greek alphabet. A second, later borrowing. Y was taken directly from Greek upsilon in the first century BC to spell Greek loanwords, long after V had entered by the Etruscan route.
Related To
The Enochian letter Gon is transliterated as Latin Y. A secondary value. The Dee tables use one sign for this letter and its primary Latin equivalent, so the two Latin letters share a single Enochian character.
Theban Y is the substitution sign for the Latin letter Y. Trithemius prints the script as a cipher alphabet with Latin equivalents. Its earlier history, and the attribution to Honorius of Thebes, are not established by that printing.
Y was borrowed directly from Greek Upsilon late in the Roman Republic specifically to spell Greek loanwords.
Sources
1. The World's Writing Systems
Peter T. Daniels and William Bright (eds.), Oxford University Press, 1996the chapter on the Italic alphabetsView the Source 2. Numerology: Or, What Pythagoras Wrought
Underwood Dudley, Mathematical Association of America (Spectrum series), 1997the chapters on Pythagoras, on Neopythagoreanism and on Mrs. L. Dow BalliettView the Source 3. Cheiro's Book of Numbers
Letter Perfect: The Marvelous History of Our Alphabet from A to Z
David Sacks, Broadway Books, 2004The chapter on the letter YView the Source Latin Alphabet (Omniglot Writing-Systems Reference)
Simon Ager, OmniglotThe Latin alphabet, on its Phoenician, Greek and Etruscan descentView the Source Reader Challenges (0 open reader challenges)
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