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Vede Ⰲ
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Origin Devised about 863 CE for the Moravian mission of Constantine the Philosopher, later Saint Cyril, and his brother Methodius
Vede is the third letter of Glagolitic and writes v. Its name is a Slavonic verb form meaning I know, and with the two names before it, it completes the phrase azu buky vede, I know letters, which is why the recitation of this alphabet is remembered as reading like a statement rather than as a list of sounds. It carries the numeral 3. In Cyrillic the same letter takes the Greek value 2, inherited from beta, so the two Slavic scripts agree on the letter's name and its sound and disagree on its number. The sound is a labiodental v throughout the Old Church Slavonic period, kept distinct from the vowel written by uku.
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Origins
Origin PeriodDevised about 863 CE for the Moravian mission of Constantine the Philosopher, later Saint Cyril, and his brother Methodius 2 Place of OriginByzantium and Great Moravia; the letters were made in Constantinople or Thessalonica and carried north for the mission 2 Origin of the NameA Slavonic word used as the letter name, shared by both Slavic alphabets 1Tradition: The Glagolitic alphabet of Old Church Slavonic Sense of the Namevede is a Slavonic verb form meaning I know 1Tradition: The Glagolitic alphabet of Old Church Slavonic Attestation
Meaning in the Attesting SourceVede's own name completes the recitation clause azu buky vede, I know letters, and while it carries the numeral 3 in Glagolitic's own count, Cyrillic assigns the same letter the Greek value 2 inherited from beta, so the two Slavic scripts agree on the letter's sound and disagree on its number. 1 Identity
Script TypeAn alphabet: each letter writes a single sound, consonant or vowel, with no inherent vowel and no vowel diacritics 1 PositionThe third letter of the Glagolitic alphabet in the traditional order 1Tradition: The Glagolitic alphabet of Old Church Slavonic Attributions
Associated SoundThe consonant v 1Tradition: The Glagolitic alphabet of Old Church Slavonic Learn More
Vede: The Glagolitic Letter (Value 3)
Vede writes the consonant v and takes the numeral three. Its name is a verb form rather than a noun, the first person singular meaning I know, and it is the second word of the sentence that the opening letters of the alphabet spell out when their names are read in order.
The sound it records is the one Greek beta had come to make by the time of the mission, and that is a large part of why the Glagolitic order looks the way it does. A ninth century Byzantine reading a Greek text pronounced beta as v, so when the alphabet was arranged the letter answering to beta was given the Slavonic v, and the plain b had to be provided separately. The two letters therefore sit side by side in the Slavonic order in the reverse of the sequence a classicist would expect, with b before v, and the numeral values follow the Slavonic arrangement rather than the Greek one.
In Old Church Slavonic v is common as a preposition on its own, written as a single letter attached to the word it governs, and manuscripts show it running together with what follows in a way that can make word division difficult for a modern editor. The sound has been stable across the Slavic languages, and where an early text writes vede a modern Slavic language will still have v, so the letter offers none of the dialect evidence that yat or the nasal vowels do.
Vede and Its Cyrillic Counterpart
Cyrillic vedi writes the same consonant and holds the same place, and here the numeral gap between the two alphabets opens for the first time. Glagolitic gives vede the value three, counting its own letters in order. Cyrillic gives vedi the value two, the value of Greek beta, because Cyrillic assigns numbers by the Greek alphabet and the Slavic b that stands between them takes no value at all. The offset of one that begins at this letter widens further down the order as more Slavic-only signs are skipped.
The names differ by a vowel, vede against vedi, and the difference is the kind of small variation that runs through the whole pair of alphabets. Neither form is a corruption of the other. The letter names were transmitted orally in recitation as much as in writing, and the abecedaria copied out in different centuries and different regions record them with slightly different endings, so the modern reference lists have to choose among attested forms.
Beyond the name and the sound the two letters have nothing in common. The Cyrillic sign is a Greek letter taken over almost unaltered, and the Glagolitic sign is not, which is the observation that underlies the whole question of where the Glagolitic shapes came from and why it has never been closed.
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Derived From
Why this is disputed. Glagolitic Vede is read as Greek Beta's counterpart in an alphabet Cyril modeled on Greek order and numeral values, but which theory explains where its rounded letterform actually came from is a live paleographic dispute. The mainstream palaeographic school, developed since Isaac Taylor's nineteenth century study, derives Glagolitic's ornamental shapes from medieval Greek cursive minuscule redesigned for Slavonic use. A rival idiographic school reads Glagolitic as substantially an original invention, its shapes built from basic forms such as the cross, circle and triangle rather than borrowed from any existing script, so this specific correspondence to Beta is accepted by one camp and denied by the other.
Originates in Language
Glagolitic was devised in the 860s so that Greek scripture and liturgy could be read in Slavonic, and Vede belongs to the alphabet of Old Church Slavonic, the language of that translation and of the earliest Slavonic books.
Related To
Cyrillic vedi answers to Glagolitic vede: the same name and the same sound v. The numeral values differ, 2 against 3.
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