Home›Articles›The Gelug Argument Against a Hidden SomethingArticlesThe Gelug Argument Against a Hidden SomethingArticlesCitation FormatsGeneral ReferenceGeneral Reference Citation TextDivinity Atlas. "The Gelug Argument Against a Hidden Something." Accessed August 30, 2026. https://divinity.interactivelion.com/articles/rangtong-gelug-argument-against-shentong.Copy General ReferenceAPA StyleAPA Style Citation TextDivinity Atlas. (n.d.). The Gelug Argument Against a Hidden Something. Retrieved August 30, 2026, from https://divinity.interactivelion.com/articles/rangtong-gelug-argument-against-shentongCopy APA StyleBibTeXBibTeX Citation Text@misc{divinityatlas-the-gelug-argument-against-a-hidden-some, author = {Divinity Atlas}, title = {The Gelug Argument Against a Hidden Something}, year = {2026}, url = {https://divinity.interactivelion.com/articles/rangtong-gelug-argument-against-shentong}, note = {Accessed August 30, 2026} }Copy BibTeXLearn MoreCross-Tradition ConnectionsSourcesComments (0)Reader Challenges (0 open reader challenges)Learn MoreThe Gelug Argument Against a Hidden Something Gelug philosophers do not treat the Jonang school's other emptiness teaching as a minor variation on their own position; they read it as a return to exactly the error Madhyamaka reasoning was built to rule out. Their argument runs like this: if ultimate reality is described as empty only of what is other than itself while remaining full of its own luminous, unchanging nature, that description has smuggled a permanent, independently existing essence back into the picture under the cover of the word emptiness, the same kind of self the teaching of no self was meant to dismantle wherever it appears, whether in a person or in the fabric of reality itself. Gelug scholars press this as a philosophical criticism developed in formal debate, not as a claim that Jonang teachers are being dishonest about the experience they say their view accounts for; the disagreement is over whether that experience is best described in positive, self affirming language or in the bare negations rangtong insists on. Jonang defenders have their own long standing answer to the charge, that a purely negative account cannot make sense of what the texts describe as directly realized, and neither side has historically treated the other's position as simply a misunderstanding correctable by better explanation.Cross-Tradition ConnectionsArticle OnSelf-emptiness (rangtong): things are empty of their own inherent existence, Beliefs & Restrictions Well-attested Source The Buddha from Dolpo: A Study of the Life and Thought of the Tibetan Master Dolpopa Sherab GyaltsenCyrus Stearnstier 1SourcesThe Buddha from Dolpo: A Study of the Life and Thought of the Tibetan Master Dolpopa Sherab Gyaltsentier 1Cyrus Stearns, State University of New York Press, 1999Stearns's account of the Gelug case against Dolpopa's shentong doctrineView the SourceComments (0)No comments yet. Be the first to share a thought.Sign in to join the discussion.Reader Challenges (0 open reader challenges)No disputes yet. Spotted an error or a better source? Open the first one.Sign in to dispute this or suggest a correction.View At A Past YearThe atlas records no dated fact of its own for this entry, so there is no other year to choose.Show This Year